{"id":408,"date":"2013-07-08T13:49:55","date_gmt":"2013-07-08T11:49:55","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/projects.digital-cultures.net\/gamification\/?p=408"},"modified":"2013-07-08T13:49:55","modified_gmt":"2013-07-08T11:49:55","slug":"pointless-and-badgeless","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.creativegames.org.uk\/GamificationLab\/uncategorized\/pointless-and-badgeless\/","title":{"rendered":"Game design VS gamification?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.creativegames.org.uk\/GamificationLab\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/07\/loser-260x131.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-417\" alt=\"loser-260x131\" src=\"http:\/\/www.creativegames.org.uk\/GamificationLab\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/07\/loser-260x131.jpg\" width=\"260\" height=\"131\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>There is an interesting, critical and slightly disillusioned approach towards assessing pointification, recently published on <a href=\"http:\/\/www.gamification.co\/\" target=\"_blank\">Gamification.co<\/a> and which generated a quick debate on the role of game designers as opposed to gamification experts.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/SBocska\">Steve Bocska<\/a> is the President and CEO of Vancouver-based Pug Pharm Productions, a leader in customer engagement, retention, and activation. Bocska is mostly a game designer, as it appears from the discussion. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.gamification.co\/2013\/06\/06\/pointless-and-badgeless-gamification\/\" target=\"_blank\">He recently wrote a post<\/a> on Gamification.co, one of the main resources for gamification &#8216;designers\/experts&#8217; (the debate is after all precisely about how to name such figure as opposed to a game designer).<br \/>\nBocska&#8217;s point is quite skeptical towards gamification:<\/p>\n<p><em>&#8216;If you\u2019ve ever raised a skeptical brow at the notion that badges and points were a magic bullet solution to engaging communities, this article is for you. Not because I\u2019m going to change your mind. But because I\u2019m going to wholeheartedly agree with you \u2013 and hopefully give you some ammo to win your next argument with that newly-minted \u201cCertified Gamification Expert&#8221;&#8216;.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>His point is that good design (i.e. &#8216;game design&#8217;) is what attracts players. He brings the example of Zynga&#8217;s games, which all experienced a &#8216;bubble and burst&#8217; effect after a relatively short time. With the only exception of Zynga Poker, which still goes well in terms of number of online players. Poker, Bocska argues, is a well designed game, and this is what ultimately brings players to be committed and engaged. He says:<\/p>\n<p><em>&#8216;Don\u2019t get me wrong, I\u2019m not suggesting that the world would be improved with more marketing campaigns. But on their own, the \u201cgamification\u201d staple of dishing out points and badges for desired behaviours are a much less honourable form of manipulation&#8217;<\/em><\/p>\n<div style=\"width: 838px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"\" src=\"http:\/\/www.gamification.co\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/Zynga.png\" width=\"828\" height=\"467\" \/><p class=\"wp-caption-text\">Source: http:\/\/www.gamification.co\/2013\/06\/06\/pointless-and-badgeless-gamification\/<\/p><\/div>\n<p><em>\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Bocska is also very much concerned from an ethical perspective, and looks at gamification as a cheap version of game design, quite simplified and oriented at users&#8217; engagement only, rather than providing fun and appealing experiences to the players. An approach which is not entirely new (sounds similar to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.gamasutra.com\/view\/feature\/6366\/persuasive_games_exploitationware.php\" target=\"_blank\">the famous point by Ian Bogost<\/a>\u00a0about gamification as &#8216;exploitationware&#8217;).<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/gzicherm\" target=\"_blank\">Gabe Zichermann<\/a>, editor of the website Gamification.co, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.gamification.co\/2013\/06\/07\/how-not-to-make-a-point-and-earn-that-badge\/\">answered defending gamification and gamification experts<\/a>. His point is that the comparison with game design is biased: gamification is a discipline of its own. His answer is quite interesting and worth reading throughout:<\/p>\n<p><em>&#8216;[&#8230;] Part of the reason why I continuously insist that gamification is its own discipline \u2014 separate from, but similar to, game design \u2014 is that we have a major cross to bear. Our designs must not only be entertaining (which is hard enough) but also help people change their lives for the better, grow businesses, improve civic engagement, change the world, and make work more productive. In short, our challenges are generally much more complex, economically significant and \u2014 dare I say \u2014 meaningful than the work that preoccupies most game designers.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>It\u2019s therefore more important than ever that we continue to refine our education and certification curricula. The case-based and practical approaches\u00a0we&#8217;ve\u00a0advocated <strong>work<\/strong>, and our industry continues to grow at a rate unmatched by most others in recent times. We are doing important and meaningful things, with generally high ethical standards. Certified gamification designers are among the best creators of experiences in the world, and with diligence this trend will continue. \u2014 check out the cases presented at GSummit 2013 for some examples. We have \u2013 in so many ways \u2013 transcended the surly bounds of \u201cgame design\u201d, and there\u2019s no reason to turn back now&#8217;.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>What is quite interesting in this debate is Zichermann&#8217;s focus on the &#8216;work&#8217;, in bold. This is in a sense the alleged difference brought by gamification. Arguments similar to Bocska&#8217;s have been heard in the past, but Zichermann has an interesting way to answer it. In other words, Zichermann&#8217;s point (which is not an answer to Bocska really) is that gamification is not game design, or better it is game design &#8216;with an agenda&#8217;. This would still not make it different from serious games or games for change. The point is that gamification should be evaluated for its effectiveness. It is &#8216;working&#8217;, in achieving &#8216;complex, economically significant and meaningful&#8217; challenges, for &#8216;the better&#8217; (&#8216;better&#8217; here being what the &#8216;gamification expert&#8217; has decided being &#8216;better&#8217;). Such challenges are allegedly the newness of gamification, and the meaningful side of such experiences, whatever that is, should answer to the ethical concern of many detractors.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>There is an interesting, critical and slightly disillusioned approach towards assessing pointification, recently published on Gamification.co and which generated a quick debate on the role of game designers as opposed to gamification experts. Steve Bocska is the President and CEO <a class=\"more-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.creativegames.org.uk\/GamificationLab\/uncategorized\/pointless-and-badgeless\/\">Read More &#8230;<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-408","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.creativegames.org.uk\/GamificationLab\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/408","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.creativegames.org.uk\/GamificationLab\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.creativegames.org.uk\/GamificationLab\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.creativegames.org.uk\/GamificationLab\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.creativegames.org.uk\/GamificationLab\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=408"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.creativegames.org.uk\/GamificationLab\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/408\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.creativegames.org.uk\/GamificationLab\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=408"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.creativegames.org.uk\/GamificationLab\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=408"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.creativegames.org.uk\/GamificationLab\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=408"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}